the agency running the navy was getting bigger as the navy was getting smaller. he made the discovery -- the size of a bureaucracy has nothing to do with the amount of work the bureaucracy does. it will grow unless it is reined in. the bureaucracy was getting bigger. if you get that kind of bloat, get in trouble and you change or go out of business. ronald reagan said the closest is a to immoralitality government agency. caller: good morning, everybody. do you think capitalism and privatizing is withdrawing the money from the united states? they charge outrageous rates when the government could have maintained the prisoners cheaper. blackwater getting outrageous amounts of money to do things for the government. think that is draining our money. the money% withstood and that is why we are falling off the cliff. guest: it goes on the subject of crony capitalism. that is businesses that are dependent on government contracts. that is not free markets. if people can compete, that's fine. too often these cases are non- bid contracts and you get disasters like solyndra.